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From what I have seen from history, there are two methods of activism: aggressive and passive.

Aggressive is the destructive kind, the marching and violent protests filled with hateful speech. It’s the riots with fires and smashed windows, with fights and police firing on the crowds. It is an out-pour of rage in the most destructive manner.

The problem with aggressive and violent protesting is that it often becomes a matter of revenge, of getting even. Strong emotions like anger and rage are very hard to stop, especially when echoed back by people nearby, and often leave a person tired and drained.

However, I don’t believe in not saying anything if an injustice has been done. Both as a human being and as a Christian, it is my duty to actively counter injustice.

Now, I come from pacifist family, so I am more inclined to passive activism. Passive is, well, more passive, but no less vocal. It’s the non-violent protests, where protesters refuse to give in to their hatred and strike back, but are no less willing to back down. It’s standing up for what you believe in and not lowering yourself to crude violence.

Given that I’ve quoted him before in previous posts, one of my favorite non-violent protesters is Mahatma Gandhi. Some of my favorite quotes from him are:

“Be the change you want to see in the world.”

“Nobody can hurt me without my permission.”

“Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love.”

“The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.”


I work hard to maintain grace and forgiveness in order to be a non-violent activist. So it takes a lot for me to even consider aggressive activism. Thankfully, in real life, it is easy to draw the line between violent and non-violent protesting. Not that I’m not tempted in the midst of my frustrations, but the actually doing is different from thinking. After all, who hasn’t thought of devious or even cruel things to strike back at people who have slighted us? The difference is that while thinking these things isn’t nice, you aren’t the kind of person to actually DO them.

However, with the Internet, a new breed of protesting medium has been made, making it easier to protest. It is easier to spread around information, easier to bring attention to issues, plan protests, etc. However, it is also easier to give into the temptations of aggressive internet activism, the kind that weakness our position and makes it easy for the courts and the public to dismiss us as a violent rabble just looking for trouble. This includes personal attacks, “trolling” and generally making oneself out to be abusive.

I’m not saying this to criticize anyone’s actions. This is merely a reminder to myself as well as others to act in a manner that does not jeopardize our position. We can shout out our slogans, stand in protest and spread information, but we should refrain from taking revenge, violent actions or actions that could be considered abusive or harassing.

It’s not something that’s easy. Heavens knows it’s not always easy, especially on the internet with the presence of trolls roaming our midst. But we should remember that the public is also watching us, and to conduct ourselves in a manner that proves that we are respectable people calling out on an injustice. By our setting the example, the public will be more favorable towards us than if we were to just strike out in our fury.

That means, of course, not feeding the trolls.

For more information about trolls, I would highly recommend this post by Genderbitch: Trolling: The Ultimate Activist Trap as well as this post by Bev What Kind of Troll Am I?

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Originally posted on LiveJournal as Troll response on July 7, 2009. What’s fun now is that, thanks to a commenter on my LJ, I now know what possibly is his real name and the city he possibly lives in, as well as his email. So a general note of caution to people: people can find you. Not me. But they can.

For everyone who decides to send me emails like this, let this be a warning. I WILL post them for everyone to see, because honestly, I think that your own words speak for themselves.

remember Billy from this post: http://neko-no-baka.livejournal.com/302226.htm ?

Well, apparently he found my blog, and decided to email me again:

“Yeah, it was me, nutsndoltz. And I think I saw your email on deviantart. I think it’s really silly that you call someone a troll for daring to disagree with you, which is what the rest of you creeps do. If only you could actually debate the merits of what your opponents say. But you backward social oppressors can’t, and can’t think of anything else to label your detractors as besides “trolls”. You don’t have the balls to directly contrdict some of the things I say so you don’t acknowledge them. I like how you think you’re so tough for posting what someone said to you in an email on your blog so your pansy-ass friends can take shots at me. You want the “troll” that is me to go away from those like you? Quit trying to proselytize others into following your despotic ambitions. Think about who the real fucking flamer is.”

doltz is a good name for him….

apparently someone needs to look up the definition of a troll.

Thank you for telling me where you got my email though.

Have a nice day Billy.

originally posted here Neurodiversity flamer on June 26, 2009.

Also, I would like to note, this is the first of two emails I received from this… man, both of which I linked to on WrongPlanet. A woman describing herself as low-functioning autistic commented that she was utterly disgusted, insulted and offended that this man has attempted to speak on her behalf about things he knows nothing about. So there you go, Neurodiversity isn’t just “high functioning” autistics

Current mood: curious

Neurodiversity flamer
I was going through my inbox today, cleaning up the mass of emails from… 5 different accounts. And I found this flame:

[start troll]

I saw that video that you put up recently with the ridiculous thoughts in it. I don’t trust anyone who tells not to focus on negative aspects. Where do you get off saying “us” and “we” like you represent all autistics when expressing your views? There is no refuting that the vast majority of your “movement” is by HFAs and aspies. Who the hell else would argue against measures that would increase mental ability, other than those who already have lots of it and want to keep their own from being distributed to others? Especially considering a lot of the super HFA have such higher aptitude than the average person. So I don’t wonder what you’re holding on to. I hate that selfishness.

Just cause some of you grew from LFAs to be HFAs doesn’t mean growing up will solve enough of the impairments or that all on the spectrum will be that lucky. Don’t pretend it’s a childhood condition. Don’t you dare ignore the many severely impaired adults who are chained into dependence and huge deficits of ability. Supports, accommodations, positive attitudes, and all that sappy shit, won’t enable many highly impaired autistics to sufficiently communicate or contribute to society. The problem of lack of capability to learn needs to be stopped.

I’m disgusted at you for complaining about low/high functioning labels. I detest that attempt to ignore the unfair vile reality. I loathe the idea that some would pretend things could be just and equitable, while LFAs are tied to incapability, dependence, and deprivation from many activities, while so many HFAs have the world by the balls, getting the choice of many things to do and accomplishing all kinds of things through academic and employment endeavors. I loathe the lies and phony perceptions that come out of lack of comparing one person to another. It’s not harmful to self-esteem. The reality of being low-functioning hurts self-esteem. No lie and patronization will cover that up. Nobody is nuts enough to think that comparing themselves to others is needless. There should be no developing and growing separately. It should be done together.

Competition and its motivation will not stop until the conditions that make it necessary stop, which are the unequal and private distribution of mental capacity. It’s not about competing to be worth anything. It’s not enough that all are worth the same. I don’t think you smart poindexter creeps are worth more. Your abilities are worth a lot for use but the individuals themselves who have them aren’t extra worthwhile for inheriting them through conditions that were out of their control, that they didn’t work to get. Being worth something doesn’t stop the pain that comes from being deprived of the dignity of independence and having basic skills, and from seeing all the goodies and privileges of high intellectual ability go to someone else. Having someone remind one of having value isn’t going to stop the vile way it feels to have to be dependent on others, and be inevitably precluded from many activities others get to do.

Why should those MANY low-functioning indivduals put up with your bullshit, trying so hard with lots of exertion to do/learn basic tasks, while not even succeeding in learning/doing all of them enough of the time, with minimal hope of doing a lot besides that, while the super high-functioning end up having to put hardly any effort at all into basic tasks and get to have an easy time working on intellectual pursuits and other abilities? If those LFA were to have more abiilties brought to them, besides what little they may get as they grow up and develop, think of how much total accomplishment would go up for the spectrum as a whole. Think of how much more time they would and could use to work on tasks/learning and how much more they could come up with using that time, if they had a much better chance at getting ahead with such things, if they could appropriate a large deal more in proportion to their exertion.

I want the future to deal with the uneven distribution of ability within the spectrum to make it equal. I want the determinants of cognitive functioning to be identified to distinguish which ones cause low-functionality and which ones cause the huge mental gifts of high-functionality. I want there to be a cure rigorously pursued to make it possible to alter the aspects of individuals’ brains that determine functioning level/ability, using methods to augment mental capacity, using the determinants of functioning that cause high mental capacity in some, and ridding aspects of brains that are known to decrease mental capacity. That’s what I’d like to see happen to make everyone on the spectrum have sufficient ability. I don’t think all involved in the issue agree on what the definition of cure is. But bashing cure outright isn’t acceptable and it isn’t honest either.

Cure isn’t about eliminating a group of individuals, or about “intolerance” of diversity, or making someone a different person. I refuse to sit back while you all try to obfuscate the issue with those concerns. I don’t see how it can’t be obvious that guaranteeing ability is what is mostly intended about cure by most involved in the issue.. I don’t hope to leave any doubt that I indulge in my own extreme envy against many who are smarter/extra capable than me and that I endorse and don’t disapprove of such sentiment. I’m someone who is severely mentally impaired myself, so I have an intense hate for the subjugation that the people you defend bring on those who are on the bottom of the hierarchy to keep them down.

[end troll]

What’s interesting is that this email, from a “Billy” at yahoo.com, sounds very much like a previous troll I’ve had. Anyone else remember nutsndoltz?

Edit: oh hey, looks like this guy has popped up on left brain/right brain. He goes by the username “kyngdingxx”

Here’s something a little more concerning. This email was sent directly to my Zika_Silver email. I don’t post that email as contact information. The only place he could have gotten it is fanfiction.net, cause I haven’t updated my account too often there. But in order to get that information, he would have to have an account there too. It’s a lot easier to follow my links and whatnot to email me, but then, those would have shown up in one of my nekonobaka emails.

So where did he get my email? puzzle puzzle, ponder ponder

Original post on LJ May 28, 2008 as Explaining self-definition

For those who don’t follow my Twitter or Facebook, I’ve started to get a little more involved with the Autistic Self Advocacy Network (ASAN) and related Autism Rights Movement groups, even commenting on the recent profile piece on Ari Ne’eman by Newsweek, found HERE.

So if you look at the comments for that article, I define myself as autistic, and then the rather infamous John Best makes attacks my person, claiming that since I do not act in the manner of his autistic son, that I couldn’t possibly be autistic, and therefore am a child abuser and harming autistic children.

Actually, you can’t see that post of his anymore: a friend of mine on Twitter had it reported as abuse and it’s been removed But if you scroll down to his attack on Ari Ne’eman and read that, just add a description of his son (being nonverbal, mentally disabled, smearing feces on the walls, unable to pass kindergarten, and mercury-poisoned) as being the criteria for autism, and you pretty much have it. Edit: Oh, he’s reposted it again.

His other post about me is still there, proving that John Best is at least as capable of internet research as Jenny McCarthy in finding recent information. He links to the Kerry’s Place page from three years ago, which is a very small local newspaper article interviewing me, more or less to promote the Spectrum Art show that I started up. In the actual interview, I did describe the specifics of my diagnosis more thoroughly, but since it was a small newspaper, the focus was on our goals with the art show, which was to promote more positive awareness of autism.

Oh, a note to my potential defenders: Do not engage John Best in a confrontation. There’s really no point. He makes himself look ridiculous without our help. He’s just annoying because he’s a very active TROLL in the autism community, dedicated to trolling Aspies and Neurodiversity advocates. And curing his son with Chelation, leeches and exorcism. That’s right, he looked up exorcism to cure his son. And selling his brand of Chelation, apparently. Because we’re all mercury-poisoned, according to him.

Anyways. I refrained from commenting on his posts about on the sites itself. But I thought it would be a good idea to address the issue of my self-definition of an autistic adult, for the curious and those who actually take the time to look me up properly.

It’s rather simple. I consider myself to be autistic. As pointed out, I’m diagnosed with Asperger Syndrome, not Autism Disorder. Well, yes, I don’t have AD.
However, Autism Disorder, or “classic autism”, Asperger Syndrome and PDD: Not Otherwise Specified are grouped together under the heading of Autism Spectrum Disorders. So it is perfectly reasonable that I label myself as autistic, as my specific dx falls under a category with Autism in the name. And if you REALLY want to be specific, one will notice that I’m purposely using lowercase letters to refer to my as autistic, as opposed to referring that I am Autistic.

To me, the difference is a matter of the specific diagnosis. I am not Autistic, meaning that I don’t have Autism Disorder, but I am autistic in that I am diagnosed with an Autism Spectrum Disorder. So, I am Aspie and I’m autistic. I use the term autistic because I’m not sure whether everyone knows that the term Aspie is a nickname that some Aspergeans(?) refer to ourselves. Never mind that not all of us even like the name Aspie, and so it’s not consistently used. Thus, the term autistic.

Edit: I couldn’t resist. John Best showed up on the Autube website, and I decided to address him at least once. My comment, should it be removed from the site:

(Edited for clarity, both here and on the site)

Yeah, that was funny, what you said about me on the Newsweek piece. Your views on autism is quite well-known, so I see little reason for your persistent commenting and attacking of persons on this site, and politely ask you to remain on topic with the issue being discussed.

However, since you have taken the time to repost your comments concerning me on Newsweek and on here, I will address some of them. This will be the first and last time; no matter what you say from here on, my opinion on the matter will remain unchanged.
This may not be the place to do so, so I understand if the moderators of this site do delete this post.

About your insistence that I stop for referring to myself as autistic: you seem to forget that Asperger Syndrome is under the category of Autism Spectrum Disoders, as well as Autism Disorder and PDD: NOS. Therefore, it is accurate as well as acceptable that I consider myself autistic. In my definition, I would call your son Autistic, as, if I am reading your blog correctly, your son is diagnosed with Autism Disorder, also known as Autistic Disorder.

So.

No. I will not stop referring to myself as autistic, and I’m no where near abusing your son, given that I’ve never said a word to, physically touched or even been in the same city as your son. And if you’ll notice in my Newsweek comment, I say “I can speak for myself”. I have never stated that I speak for your son. Rather, I speak for myself and for/with like-minded autistic individuals. Whether your son agrees or disagrees with me is his choice.

Also, even if you are a properly educated expert on ASD, it is very inappropriate for you to try diagnosing a complete stranger on the internet without knowing their complete background and behavioural history, just as it would be completely inappropriate of me to diagnose yourself with Asperger’s given your obsessiveness of these issues and narrow-minded focus, as well as taking your theories of mercury-poisoning at face value and pointing out that by your own theories, you too are mercury poisoned.

And at any rate, we’ve both have been distracted from the issue at hand here. So now that you have sparked a reaction from me, please do address the matter of whether you think autism is accurately portrayed in the media.

Have a nice day,
Corina

You can look up the exchange here: http://www.autube.tv/

There you go.



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  • Corina Becker: Hi Anonymous person who apparently doesn't feel like giving me a name to address, and thus hides behind anonymity!!! I never said the federal gov
  • Anonymous: I think that it is about time something is being done federally to help those with ASD to get much needed therapies for their disability and YES I do
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